Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

topic posted Tue, August 12, 2008 - 10:57 PM by  GlowStick
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So yes,

I have always had.. well.. it's funny, I used to not have anger issues but this year I do- anyway, I have some issues dealing with anger. Recently, I had a friend (Sag/Sag rising/Cappy moon) basically start ignoring me when I had emotional problems, and yet I was helping her get through when her boyfriend was acting like a complete jerk and moron to her. They broke up and I had to listen to her go on and on about it at times, but after I helped her with that and she was pretty much over it, she starts ignoring it.

But get this, I had a crush on a guy (Libra/Leo rising/Gemini moon), we get into a dispute and after I stop talking him really, I made the mistake (well before, but yeah) of introducing them. Now they are friends and she is helping him get over me, even though she basically ignored me when I needed help. Yeah, fucking two face bitch.

Anyway, I really don't know how to deal with this- I have written out nasty messages to both and sent it to them, he at least won't be surprised but she might be. I have no clue. I just feel so much anger that my chest hurts. I've tried hitting things but that makes it worse at times.
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  • Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

    Thu, August 14, 2008 - 9:54 PM
    Close your eyes, take deep breaths. That's about the best I can tell you, doesn't make it much easier, but worth a try.

    The problem with us Aries moons, is that we *don't* like to hold back our anger- we desire to lash out at that which angers us, it can be so satisfying; strike quick, and strike hard, physically or verbally. And verbally can be pretty bad, as we can be quite cruel, we want to inflict damage on their emotions. The anger circulates within us, so bad that we can almost feel our blood pressure rising, making the desire to unleash it even worse, and it almost feels as though the devil is in us. Then in 5 minutes or so, it's gone, and we're fine, except for maybe feeling just a tad unhealthy for putting our bodies through the stress. Not to mention, sore knuckles/fists if you happened to have taken your anger out on a wall, and the hurt feelings of those unlucky enough to hear/feel our verbal wrath.

    In other words, I hope you didn't say anything in your messages to them that you may not have meant and will regret later, we tend to do that. The Sagi, though, doesn't sound like she's on your side at all, might be a good thing if you said things that will keep her away from you.
    • Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

      Sun, August 17, 2008 - 2:47 PM
      Well, the thing is, I am not speaking to them at all anymore (it was days before that I stopped speaking to the Sag- at least 4, so she was already out and the Libra a couple days before) so it's ok lol.

      The messages were really harsh, but honestly I don't think the Sag took it to heart. I think the Libra probably did, but eh.

      I'm pretty much over that anger now, but every now and then I'll be reminded of them and it'll bubble to the surface.

      *nods* I try the closing the eyes/breathing thing, it sometimes does something.
  • Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

    Tue, August 19, 2008 - 7:26 AM
    Hi, Nejispirit,

    Anger issues are something Aries Moons do know about! I went so far as to go to an Anger Management seminar, which helped quite a bit.

    Later I got a book which is VERY helpful. It is called __Putting Anger to Work for You!__ by Ruth and Joel Schroeder. It is a kind of workbook.

    Mainly, the book says there are several kinds of anger:
    1. Anger which comes from feeling that your self-worth is being threatened. That is, when you are feeling deprived, exploited, manipulated, frustrated, betrayed, or humiliated....your self-worth feels threatened. You get angry. Anger alerts you that you are being somehow violated. Anger provides you the energy to act to take your self-worth back.

    2. Anger which comes from your reaction to Injustice. Some call this "righteous" anger...for instance, if you see a child being beaten or a person benefitting from wrongdoing, anger propels you to do something about it. Again, anger provides energy.

    3. Anger can also alert you to your unmet needs. These may be real or perceived needs. For instance, you need food, clothing and shelter, but if your job does not pay enough to meet those needs, you will be angry. People get angry when they are afraid. Fear in the heart comes from the tongue as anger. When you realize that the source of your anger is fear, and when you deal with the cause of your fear, anger will dissipate.

    (In all the above situations, anger can be your friend. But you must recognize your anger and use it to motivate you to take constructive steps to change the situation. You cannot change the actions of others, but you can change your own actions and act appropriately. You can deal with your anger by acting aggressively ("blowing up"--which both isolates you and exposes you....not good), or by passive aggression ("being nice and controlling or denying your anger"--can make you sick or prone to accidents), or by Proactive Assertiveness ("stating your needs" and taking responsibility for yourself and your own life.)---the BEST way to deal with your anger.

    4. CHRONIC ANGER: This is anger that is more deeply rooted, and is damaging to all involved. It comes from 3 sources:

    * Parental modeling: You may have learned to be angry from your parents or parental role models. Think about how your parents handled anger. How can you handle your anger better than they did?

    *Unresolved events: If your anger is out of proportion to the event, that's a good indication that "old anger" is operating. Sometimes the rage you are directing at a friend or lover is actually leftover rage from childhood! It takes courage and commitment to ferret out the unresolved events in your life and deal with them one by one. Another indication that you're dealing with "old anger" is if you aim your anger at the wrong target. For example, someone makes you angry and work and you come home and yell at your kids. This comes from learning to "displace" your anger, which is not a good idea.

    *Irrational Beliefs: Analyze your vocabulary. If you think in "shoulds," "oughts," and "musts," then more than likely you harbor some irrational beliefs that fuel your anger.

    Consider whether any of the following irrational beliefs trigger anger in you. Notice that each belief is based on either winning the approval of others, being treated "right," or getting what you want:

    IRRATIONAL BELIEFS:

    1. The "My Rules or Else" Fallacy: I judge others by MY RULES. Those who follow them are okay. Those who don't are wrong!

    2. The "Entitlement" Fallacy: Because I want something very much, I ought to have it---NOW!

    3. The Fallacy of "Fairness": There is an absolute standard of correct and "fair" behavior. People should know it and live up to it.

    4. The Fallacy of "Control": I can control the behavior of others---I just need to apply enough pressure!

    5. The "Conditional Acceptance" Fallacy: If you love me, you'll . . . . . . . . .. . ., no matter what.

    6. The "Letting it Out" Fallacy: People who hurt me or don't treat me kindly should be punished.

    7. The "Self-Performance" Fallacy: People will judge me as a person based on the success of my performance.

    How to overcome chronic anger? Here's an example:

    A. My child misbehaves in a restaurant.
    B. My child is misbehaving because I am a bad parent.
    C. I feel rotten, inadequate, and angry.

    You cannot change A.
    You can change B to this: "It's two hours past my child's normal bedtime. Most children misbehave when they are tired."
    How do I feel now? "I become more concerned about my child's needs and take steps to get home as soon as possible."
    You could not change A, but you did change B, which in turn changed C.

    So, with irrational beliefs, it's important to CHANGE THE BELIEF.

    So, there you go! I hope this helps!

    (Another great book that has helped me deal with my Anger is __Love is Letting Go of Fear__ by Gerald G. Jampolsky, M.D.)
    • Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

      Tue, August 19, 2008 - 12:59 PM
      Ah, thank you. I actually have a real life therapist who has been helping me a bit with it~

      Anger is a wonderful emotion, the emotion of change- but it can be to a person's determent at times too :\

      Thanks for the input though!
    • Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

      Tue, August 19, 2008 - 8:45 PM
      Maggie,

      What a great post! Thank you so much!

      I realise that I'm still an inherently angry person and it takes a lot of work to slowly dissipate the hot air but I'm working on it. Last night I was extremely emotional (transit moon conj natal moon) and I got upset.

      Luckily my boyfriend was far away so he didn't have to witness the anguish. I had so much anger over a small mindless thing and didn't know where to put it. In the end I curled up in bed and cried and plot vengeance. Until I absolutely exhausted myself. No amount of screaming logic in my head could stop the strong emotions.

      But breathing helped. And being mindful about displacing the anger helped a lot too. In the end, I compelled myself to be honest to my boyfriend about why I got mad but there was a tendency to say mean things, so I was as vague as possible but still told him I was upset. It's about owning up to your emotions and taking control..man..!
      • Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

        Wed, August 20, 2008 - 11:19 AM
        Hi, Jacqueline,

        Boy do I know what you mean! If it's any comfort to you....it DOES get a little easier as you get older. But, even now, I still have times where I find myself saying mean things...probably because my thoughts are so QUICK I don't really have time to stop myself!

        However, I do apologize later or the next day, and that is important.

        One thing that has helped me during the years is learning the words to say that give me space to breathe.

        Some good phrases:

        (when somebody asks you a personal question) Why do you want to know?

        (when somebody insults you) Is that meant as an insult?

        (when you feel a big emotion coming on) I'll think about that and talk to you later.

        (when an authority figure tells you to do something that you disagree with) I'm not comfortable with that.

        (when you are upset but also confused) Could you clarify that for me? (then ask your question....)

        (when you feel the anger coming on...) Excuse me. I'll be back. (go outside and walk around, or just walk around the building)

        I'm sure you-all can think of a lot more "techniques" to handle these kinds of situations........as you go through life, you pick the ones that work the best for YOU.

        I've really learned a lot from the books by Harriet Lerner. __The Dance of Anger:: Rising Above Anxiety, Fear, and Shame to Be Your Best and Bravest Self__ is a great book, as well as __ The Dance of Connection: How to Talk to Someone When You're Mad, Hurt, Scared, Frustrated, Insulted, Betrayed, or Desperate__.


        • Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

          Thu, August 21, 2008 - 7:30 PM
          Thanks Maggie!

          Those are good heads-up. Normally I'm not so quick to let my emotions take over like that. A lot of factors added to why it got out of control. I've done much work about the anger. Having a feisty leo moon mother who has anger issues reminds me constantly not to simply let it go. The channelled and focus energy of an Aries moon can be amazing!

          Breathing is very important to a fire/air combo like me. I find that if I breath well and correctly I'm a much calmer person! And also it seems to me that Aries moons are very very aware of their surroundings and how it affects them. If we can get past the 'why are they doing this to ME?' to 'why are things happening this way? How can I make it better?' then we flare up less too..
          • Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

            Fri, August 22, 2008 - 7:21 AM
            Good words, Jacqueline! Breathing DOES help....as does "Mindfullness Meditation." I had a mother with Aries Moon and now I have a boss with Aries Moon....that IS a reminder....they serve as "mirrors" for me! They both "got a lot done" in their lives! However, they were both "steamroller" types, too. I prefer to be more introspective and gentle, if I can!

            I agree that we are better if we don't take everything personally! One trick I learned at a workshop: Take a Q-tip and put it where you can see it, to remind you: Q-TIP (Quit Taking It Personal!). ;-D

            Thanks for reminding me!
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    Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

    Sat, September 27, 2008 - 5:31 PM
    Yea.. I know what u mean.
    Well, I have an Aries moon but Libra Sun/Aquarius Rising
    AND on top of it I was born in the year of the tiger.. which creates an interesting chart..
    I truly loathe discord... but when it triggers me right my anger is.. well YOU BETTA DUCK!! Because something is going to go flying... But anger can also be due to some unresolved issues in the past. So maybe taking a good look at your past may hold some answers for you.
    I'm starting to think the past holds a lot of answers to who we are today..
    This is also an emotion.. so Aries people are very emotional..everyone I know is like this. I dated an Aries guy one time..fell for him so hard and then it was his anger that ruined everything so its a big deal when you sacrifice your own happiness because of anger issues.
    • Re: Aries Anger Issues - wah, I need help~

      Wed, October 1, 2008 - 11:13 PM
      Ugh, that makes me fearful of running away the guy I just got with with my anger lol! He's seen me angry, but we're so new to dating each other (5 weeks now) that we haven't gotten into an argument yet.

      Ah, Aquarius rising- I've never come across one of those; I'm learning to really cherish Aquarian in all their wonder so pardon me ;)

      I am though, extremely emotional, and that has gotten me into weird things; but, my anger.. before I found the right medication for anxiety this year, was not even there at all... I was anxious, period, and depressed due to the anxiety.

      I love my anger now, how extreme it can get, but there are times where I scare those who I care for in my life with it.

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